Sustainable Packaging

Live from Paris Packaging Week with Cecile Pompili / Lumson

March 03, 2023 Cory Connors Season 3 Episode 205
Sustainable Packaging
Live from Paris Packaging Week with Cecile Pompili / Lumson
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Cory Connors:

Welcome to Sustainable Packaging with Cory Connors. Today's guest is Cecile Pompili from Lumson Corporation. How are you, Cecil? Yeah. Great. Nice to see

Cecile Pompoli:

you and to meet you personally.

Cory Connors:

Thank you so much. We're live from Paris Packaging Week. Very exciting event. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and your

Cecile Pompoli:

background? So Maybe. My name is Italian, but I'm French . That's true. Yeah. and I've been working in the industry of the packaging for more than 20 years. Oh, wow. Big group. Depending on the different type of activity or skincare or even farmer also. Mm-hmm.. And I am in charge of the marketing strategic in LU for six years. So, which is a, a 90 company Lump. It's a family company, you know, about Lump.

Cory Connors:

I don't, I don't know as much as I'd like to know. Well, why don't you tell us a little bit about Lumson? Cecile Pompoli: So, company because we have. 600 more than 600 people. So, and it's still like family, it's a family company owned by the Marti family. And the particular of the lease, if I can say, is really to have a lot of manufacturing plants. Knowledge we are capable from the injection, for example, which is very, very high level in terms of technology or even touch blowing for example. Oh really? And again, we have also the capacity to make assembly. So we have, so you professional problem, used to have several knowledge intern because we manufacture everything. At the end to produce a lot of different type of range of packaging for the brands. So it's, it's particular, it's particular mostly plastic, plastic materials, or can you tell us a little bit about that?

Cecile Pompoli:

No, not only material plastic. The idea at the beginning is ready. To, to give full solution. For example, for the brands. So we have one plant, which is dec dedicated to plastic. This is a plant in close to Venice. Yeah. And then we have also the odd plants close to Milano., which are capable to to deliver some glass packaging, which are in line with a plastic collection, let's say. So we have a full range of collection and above those, as we know that the brands, they are looking also for let's say closing system. We have developed, and this is one of the key business of Lumson , some some dispensing systems. So we have, we are one of the players the most, let's. Premium player in the pump industry. And believe me, I was part of the pump industry before. So . It's true.

Cory Connors:

Yeah. It's an amazing part of packaging that I didn't know about as well before this event. And that's a lot of the A d F, right? That's You're, you're presenting the new dispensing system for different kinds of product. Right.

Cecile Pompoli:

So dispensing depends on what you're speaking about Exactly. Because one of the key activity of , I was just telling you is dispensing system. So in the dispensing system industry, you have. Spray pump, which is something apart. We have cream pump, lotion, pump, and inside also you have the airless dispensing system on which lump is for me, one of the let's say more premium player and also offering a very large of, so on the and lotion and dispensing system, Lumson for me, has the right position because we don't want to be mass market. Okay. But we have the capacity, just what I was telling you before, we have the internal capacity of, in terms of manufacturing to produce and to be able to put on market those dispensing system from pump to air less packaging system. So it's, it's a good activity and for me it's one of the, let's say Key business where we are as strategic manager, we should look around. Yeah. It's, it's a key business for us. Excellent. And a key trend, . That's right.

Cory Connors:

Well, tell us a little bit about Paris Packaging Week and what it means to your company. Do you have a, a booth presenting here or, yes. Yes. Yeah. Wonderful.

Cecile Pompoli:

I think we started nearly from the beginning of the p v when it was So we are, you know, . . Yeah. No, no, it's I think it's,. It's a good place to be for sure, because first of all, in Europe compared to. There's a lot of also innovation in packaging players. There's a lot of player, German, France, Italian, so, and also Spain. So I think there's something very motivated uh, in term of market. Yes. So being in Paris, it's in the middle of Europe. For me, it's clear it's a good place because it's easy place to come, right., it's not too, and what they also. Succeeded. I mean, in term of organization, they, they were not too big. They were not too big, in fact, right? So, and they have in one day or two days for brand or project manager, you can come in, plan, make your choice. And also in term of timing, it's January so. It's clear you can get your project before the end of the year. No, it's, it's well marked. It well done and very, very well done. And I like it because it's not too big. Yes. I think the trend on the exhibition is not to be too big. It's really to be close. Yes. That's, that's the success of p and believe me, partner was already good , but now it's perfect

Cory Connors:

place.. I totally agree. This show is it's a great size. It's very walkable. In a day or two, which is the length of the show, about 650 exhibitors. And four different places to, to hear speakers and things like that. I came from in October. PAC Expo was 40,000 people which was wonderful. But this is much more easy to consume in a, in a smaller amount of time. So well said

Cecile Pompoli:

exactly what I said, and it is a future because, you know, with all the the thanks of all the communication and and the influencer and TikTok and so on, so you have at one moment to position yourself in term of communication and exhibition could be lost, but it could. But the way they are, they are improving and being local and not to big . Is All right. Great. Right to, to go now. It's good. Very well said. No, I really clearly appreciate a lot. The rest,

Cory Connors:

EZ FARs puts on a great event. I'm excited to be a part of it. Can you talk a little bit about the sustainability of the packaging , for your company and may maybe the trends that you're seeing for the future of sustainable packaging?

Cecile Pompoli:

So in being a part of the beauty industry for a long time, I must admit it was like a sudden strike, I mean way Yeah. Of coming out from very true from the trend like food and not only on the cosmetic market. Right. And I lumon really Focus on the, this, let's say it's not a trend for one moment, it's, it's for the future, right? So as Lumson is always engaged with quality, we want to, we want, and we have a strategy which is really deep. So the first let's say movement in Luson was to engage somebody to be in charge of, right? The sustainability system, let's say. Yep. So. It again. It was like new for us, huh? Right In cosmetic in particular. And the beauty premium, it's something we didn't talk before, so again, we want to constrict something and for us it's just getting one, one organization around this. So first of all, we, we have engaged somebody for that. So yeah, this is Kenya, so we have a leader for that. And actually everything. What we are developing in term of packaging again, we are manufacturer is we we start with analyze. Yeah, with the live signal analyze. So we get a tool. Thanks again. Now it's in regards to the strategy and we think about the calculation of the c impact of, of fact and everything is not only on the packaging, but billing me also. We also like to check if some investment in a machine. Yeah. So it's also internally, right. Maybe have more impact than putting one people more. Right. We can compare this. So, and this is purely internal done by long. It's not something with the chase. So we sync. Internally, so from the beginning on the conception, but also I've seen some examples. We prefer not to acquire an assembling or some equipment in the assembly, but the operation by manual will be less consumption in term of electricity. So it's, it's good sinking. So

Cory Connors:

important. Yeah. And, and water usage and energy consumption and, and exactly. Greenhouse gas. The lifecycle analysis from, from beginning to end is, is so diverse and such a key part of it. Are you trying to use higher post-consumer recycled materials for your, for

Cecile Pompoli:

your packaging? Yes. Yeah. For this, we are really align with the brands. Yeah. What they want. We are. Capable. We follow. We have also for sure some rpt but of bottle also in the glass. So also where we can, in fact, the idea is for me it's in evident what is already present. On the planet, we should reuse it.

Cory Connors:

right. First step. Such a simple thought. Exactly. And so true.

Cecile Pompoli:

But you know, after the brands they have their proper image. So we, we also need for them to be adapt of their positioning. And, you know, the cosmetic is different from food. Huh? It's something

Cory Connors:

very different and so much more challenging. Exactly.

Cecile Pompoli:

It's a challenge. So, but of course, yeah. The evidence first is to reduce something already. Yes. That's a response.

Cory Connors:

I love that. Are you, are you working on some reusable schemes for, for packaging?

Cecile Pompoli:

Yes, we have already. We started yeah, initially concept three years ago.. With the, let's says a key for reference on the skincare market now, because lumps, we have skincare and makeup. So makeup is also, we are looking for, let's say in term of conception, but for the skincare, we have already started. So the big standard, which is a 50 ml jar, you know? Right. It's it is a key player in term of preference on the market. So we started already with a 50 ml re an insert, which can be easily, it's, it's ergonomic, which. We don't want to, to find something too much complicated for the consumer because at the end it's consumer. So we started with one and actually we have 3, 3, 3 reference on the 50 because after, again, the cosmetic, you can have the square shape, you can have round check, you can. So we have three different design, the tml and coming on the smaller size, which is a 15. Yeah. And again, as we want to have a full conception, The package, this type of packaging is closed, is a leader. Okay. Right. We moving it because we are producer of the leader, we've, we are packaging player for all the components and so the leads actually we are launching some, some leads in full pp, so Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah, it's new. This is new. So we, we weren't ready to have a complete concept that just one component. It has no sense

Cory Connors:

that that is such a key point to this whole thing is to have a mono material solution that can be reusable or recyclable or, or compostable if, if you're going that direction. But that's a challenge too. Well, thank you so much. Is there anything I, I didn't ask you about that you wanted to, to mention?

Cecile Pompoli:

No, I mean for sure. I think Europe is one of the key place for manufacturing and in particular for cosmetics. So I think the PCG will be a wonderful addition. It's nice to come back also physically with the people. Yeah, I know from the sales point of view. And they're completely busy, busy all those two today. So no, just think a good place to be and to also get a lot of innovative Example from the European bucket for, for the cosmetic packaging?

Cory Connors:

Yeah. Well, I can speak a little bit from based as an American, we are looking to Europe for wisdom , and you are, you're guiding the ship for sustainability and packaging. And thank you for doing that. We appreciate it. Okay. Thank

Cecile Pompoli:

you so

Cory Connors:

much. Thank you so much. What's the best way for people to get in touch with you and, and

Cecile Pompoli:

lumps LinkedIn for sure. Which is the most famous place. for sure. Yeah, for sure. And of course for the Lump Sun internet website. Yeah. I'll put

Cory Connors:

all that in the show notes so people can just click on that for you.

Cecile Pompoli:

Thank you. It's nice. I appreciate it. Appreciate your time. Okay. Thank you. You.