Sustainable Packaging

The Package Deal at Waste Expo in Las Vegas

May 20, 2022 Cory Connors Season 2 Episode 109
Sustainable Packaging
The Package Deal at Waste Expo in Las Vegas
Show Notes Transcript

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The first in person meeting of the package deal! Including 
https://www.linkedin.com/in/eveliomattos/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/adampeek/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jquinnpackaged/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikey-pasciuto/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/cory-connors/

An amazing time at this great event  https://www.wasteexpo.com/en/home.html

https://ororapackagingsolutions.com/
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Evelio Mattos:

Okay. Awesome. Let's go guys. Let's do this.

Adam Peek:

You're going to note that. Sure. I'll do this.

Evelio Mattos:

All right. Hey guys. How's it going? We've got a we're in Vegas with a package deal. We've got some new friends, uh, old faces. We've got 'em at a peak hosts package design. No, that's great.

Adam Peek:

podcasts. You've done that

Mikey Pasciuto:

twice. You know that I do. I don't even

Evelio Mattos:

know my name. Cory Connors host of sustainable packaging podcast. And at corrugated on Tik TOK. Yes, we've got John Quinn, Jonathan Quinn, J

Jonathan Quinn:

Quinn, P Jonathan Quinn, sir. 4,040.

Evelio Mattos:

That's right. And if you're in Vegas, I mean, there are bigger than life size led displays with John Quinn, 30 feet tall, bigger than the state. Like it is crazy. Uh, and then we've got new buddy Mikey with scrap bingo co-founders cofounder and scrap is a killer app that allows you to, uh, scan barcodes and reset. And understand if your product is recycle, will not recycle. But of course, my name is Evelio Mattos , hosts of package design on boxed and packaging professor, professor packaging, to find me

Adam Peek:

on. Yeah,

Evelio Mattos:

I'm on the

Adam Peek:

web somewhere. This is episode one of the package deal podcast, right? Yeah. So one of one, one of one,

Jonathan Quinn:

the first meeting of all of us.

Adam Peek:

Yeah. So let's talk. You were honored yesterday at the 40, under 40, uh, event. Congratulations, sir. Do you want to talk about that? What does that

Jonathan Quinn:

all about? Um, I'm still trying to figure out how I made the list.

Adam Peek:

Um, are you under the age of 40 I'm under the age of 41, I made the list,

Jonathan Quinn:

but, um, no, it's, it's really about people that. Looked at it as an influential within the sustainability waste, recycling, um, areas. And in our, I mean, the future, I guess you'd say of, of the industry and the leaders that are going to help enable a circular economy, I think is really what it's about. Well done. Congratulations.

Adam Peek:

That's awesome. Are you able, do you, did you have a MySpace page? I did have a

Jonathan Quinn:

MySpace page.

Adam Peek:

Oh, okay.

Jonathan Quinn:

Well then I right on the cusp of random, the millennial

Adam Peek:

cusp, did you use it to find a new bank? Are you friends with Tom? Cause that's all. I was friends with Tom. Everybody was friends with freaking

Jonathan Quinn:

um, yes, I was friends with Tom. He had so many friends. Did you like

Evelio Mattos:

customize your page with? I did with

Jonathan Quinn:

music and I did plastic bags. There was a whole lot of follow up boy

Mikey Pasciuto:

evolves. Um, that makes you fall anywhere between my generation.

Jonathan Quinn:

I'm multidimensional.

Evelio Mattos:

That's awesome. Just say that my space is like. All right. That's where I learned to code. You know, I think everybody kind of just like started hacking their page. And before that nobody ever really even thought about like building a website. No,

Adam Peek:

I still don't. Yeah.

Mikey Pasciuto:

Now it's transcended code now. It's all no code now. It's just widgets you plug in. So it's like, and you built an app, right? Yeah. How much code is on your app? Like a pretty good amount of code. It's it's, it's a pretty sophisticated system. Um, so basically I did not code it. I did all the. Backend like planning for like how the recycling system would work. But two full-stack devs had to code the app, but proudly our UI, we never contracted in a UI designer. It was done by a guy who has his master's in civil engineering. But no, this, this being a designer, but he just has such an intensive to detail. We actually have a, uh, slogan at the office. We call them the Dan details. Cause he's just so like critical. Like he, but he does it to himself too. It's not like he goes after other people's work and just, that's kind of a scrap of sorts. And so. For sure. So I guess tell us a little bit about the app. Yeah, so basically I guess a little bit of backstory is we're at UNH and UNH. Uh, the university of New Hampshire. There's a lot of New Hampshire. UNH, UNH is new Haven and so on, but basically they're platinum star rated university, like one of the, one of six in the country in terms of HQ stars, which is like a certification for universities. Um, and we looked at the trash and recycling on our campus and there was no difference. Like it was so contaminated that. Two dumpsters at that point, it wasn't a recycling of cinema land for one, and we figured we had it. We had to do something about it. So we designed this idea. We entered a competition at school, um, and it was me Dan and Evan then, and then UK nationals. And we entered the competition and lost with our original idea, but we're invited to the EPA TIG. And then when we were, there were next to like Nestle, you know, we really just like, like printed out pieces of paper and credible tabling next to like Nestle WM talking to the then director of the EPA. I think his name was Andrew Wheeler, but long story short, we realized this is like, okay, this is actually a serious issue. It's not just UNH. And then from there we realized we wanted to make some. That would adapt to different products, different recycling systems, and then also be accessible to everybody because you can't even get consumers, the recycle rate for free, nevermind. If they had to pay for it. So that's why our app will forever be free for consumers to use. And basically how it works. You scan the barcode on the back of any item because you have a cycle will not based on no occasion based on what it's made out of. So you can get really granular, detailed guidance. And now we actually work with. To accentuate their sustainability initiatives as well. So if they're a B Corp, if they're vegan non-GMO we can highlight that in the product.

Evelio Mattos:

What do we learn today? Planets here. Planet. Was it planetarium?

Mikey Pasciuto:

I sustain the Tarion.

Adam Peek:

Yeah, it was, yeah. Some humanitarian planetary and diet diet. Yes. If you only eat plants, that's even more vegan, right? To the third power, but you can't eat Pluto. No rest in peace. Pluto. You're not playing it. Sometimes

Evelio Mattos:

it's a micro microplane. It's

Adam Peek:

like a super diet. It's like, it's like micro-plastics Pluto is just micro planet.

Mikey Pasciuto:

Sorry. Is that too soon, too soon?

Adam Peek:

Burn

Mikey Pasciuto:

away. That's fine.

Adam Peek:

No, no. Don't don't trust me, trust me as somebody with the same soundboard, it only causes problems. I, uh, I don't want to

Mikey Pasciuto:

push the buttons. Awesome guys.

Evelio Mattos:

So, um, I mean, we've got some people listening in from a couple different places. We got, um, Rick Aslan, not athlete, but Rick Aslan from South Carolina. That's pretty awesome. Um, we've got, and you're working with plastics company, so you strive for sustainability. So you must know,

Jonathan Quinn:

South Carolina is.

Adam Peek:

Where you at? Rick, Rick,

Jonathan Quinn:

where you at? Rick? We got, we got a free, just we've a brand new, a blown film extrusion plant in Anderson, South Carolina, right near right near Clemson state of the facility. It's it's uh, it's really exciting.

Evelio Mattos:

Uh, you, you talked about Clemson, so do you go to school in

Jonathan Quinn:

Columbia? I went to Clemson, went to Clemson, study packaging and business, um, and

Evelio Mattos:

design, packaging, engineering, packaging engineering.

Jonathan Quinn:

Without science or combination. Um, but always I grew up around the industry. So my, my goal was to be on the more, the commercial side, uh, of the, the conversation. Um, and that's why I pulled in the business set to go with the packaging.

Adam Peek:

If you've listened to the podcast that he did with myself and with Corey, he's been on both of our podcasts, you know, he's waiting to do the

Evelio Mattos:

trifecta. I revealed today. And I hate it. We've met him on clubhouse and he was the plastics guy and I was the anti plastic guy.

Jonathan Quinn:

So that was the key. There is heyday. Yeah. Some no longer hate, not at all, just for a few

Evelio Mattos:

hours. Just, you know, I would see a space pop up on clubhouse. Like, damn it.

Mikey Pasciuto:

She's going to sell flat plastic. You can hide it. And then like, after like just talking, we got us now. I'm like, oh yeah, he's got a pretty good point. Like, I've always noticed like lower and I'm like big plastics hiding something. They're not, not hypercare fibers or carbon based material clearly. So it's going to carry a higher. Exactly. Yeah. And I

Evelio Mattos:

mean, made a great argument. So,

Mikey Pasciuto:

Hey, where's,

Adam Peek:

where's it. The Mount pleasant now their BFF, South Carolina,

Evelio Mattos:

Mount pleasant. It's a

Jonathan Quinn:

more towards Charleston.

Adam Peek:

Chuck town. Do you call it shutdown? I do. Oh, that's what I would call it. Chuck down.

Evelio Mattos:

Rick said he started a packaging company call at Clemson. He was with cryo vacuum 12. Oh, wow.

Adam Peek:

You started the package company at Clemson. So what it says, the package company. I'm just saying all the time, man. It's a big difference between a like this, this is Tara, she's a wife or this is Tara. She is the wife. Like

Mikey Pasciuto:

there's a difference. The

Evelio Mattos:

wife,

Adam Peek:

one of one I will. I'm saying like that's the Ohio state, the Ohio state university instead of just Ohio state. Yeah. You can't whatever.

Evelio Mattos:

We got Matt, Matt months from. Colin and also, so some pretty dope. We got a couple of people coming in,

Adam Peek:

David dent, Richmond VA,

Jonathan Quinn:

favorite city

Adam Peek:

resides besides Fort Collins, Colorado. I am a fan of

Jonathan Quinn:

Fort Collins and Chicago

Adam Peek:

in Chicago.

Evelio Mattos:

So cause it's what do we do here? All right. So we're in Vegas. Um, we're at waist did three,

Adam Peek:

just waste 360, the waste

Evelio Mattos:

waste expo. And, uh, we just did a panel. We were all up on stage. And we talked about plastics and recycling and paper and plastic not being good. And Jonathan Quinn admitted, you know, finally he's like plastic settings.

Jonathan Quinn:

There was no, really?

Evelio Mattos:

No, but it was great. So Jonathan, you were asking some questions.

Jonathan Quinn:

Yeah, I think the highlights of the conversation, and I think all of you deserve a ton of credit for what you're all doing in regards to education of the consumer. Um, that's one of the biggest challenges that we have is consumers understanding the value of the materials and why materials are selected and just bringing real awareness and education associated with. Um, that was one of the, I think the keys to the conversation, because we talked about educating the consumer and how critical it is, um, and a number of different reasons that that came up. Um, and I think that's one of the great things that, that you guys are doing with regard to the podcast and he's going to be doing as well. Thank

Mikey Pasciuto:

you. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think honestly, I think a turning point for me, like just going through the sessions this week was definitely talking about. Like I've always grown up. It was like the trash guy or recycling or whatever, but like, technically speaking, like we deal with commodities. I think my buddy angel would laugh. He deals with Rolex is Tiffany, et cetera. But like, we're technically in the same space of a commodity. Like it's a material that's traded on an international scale in some cases. So it's actually pretty cool to think of it in that fashion. Yeah. Yeah. The average person, like I was the average person at one point thinks like, oh, it's just something I need to get rid of. There's kind of no such thing as getting rid of anything anymore these days, especially with sustainability. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I

Evelio Mattos:

mean, you never truly get rid of anything. Right. I think that's the key thing here. Um, it, it gets recycled, gets turned into materials, like, like tracks or, um, you know, construction waste. So it turns into a million things and we're here at waste expo. I mean, like right over here, there's a $2 million piece of equipment. And then like over there, there's like a $4 million, uh, piece, like there's insane stuff here. Um, that would be great if you're in packaging, if you're in. To visit this expo because you learn so much on the recycling side. Like I just walked through Ashley's questions. I'm not, I don't know the credit card won't cover that gigantic piece, separator the

Mikey Pasciuto:

small loan and a personal

Adam Peek:

guarantee. Right. If we could get, if we get some more sponsors though, I'm just,

Evelio Mattos:

yeah. If you sponsor the podcast, we could buy that gigantic

Adam Peek:

$4 million and you can. We'll put your logo on the side of it. That's right.

Jonathan Quinn:

But the interesting thing of walking around here is you get full perspective of everything that we design and develop from a packaging standpoint, everything, and everybody that's surrounded. The they're the ones that help enable the circular economy from the next phase, right. Um, where it served one purpose and now they're enabling the next. Phase of the material, whether it's paper or plastic or whatever it may be. That's all part of this whole conversation. And that is where I think about another level of respect for all of these people, because, and it just shows how critical partnership and collaboration is, uh, from a standpoint of nobody's got. Um, nobody's got one solution. That's going to solve it. All right. We've got to be collaborating and partnering in order to enable it all. We should shout out

Adam Peek:

Liz Bothwell for inviting us all

Jonathan Quinn:

to speak. Thank you, Liz. We appreciate

Evelio Mattos:

yours. Yeah, that was awesome. Thank you so much. Um, but yeah, you're right. Just to pile on that. And that the floor here is gigantic. All the people that are here from the heavy equipment, too, there's people selling software, people, selling

Adam Peek:

sorting equipment, like incredible,

Evelio Mattos:

ridiculous. I mean, this industry is huge and you just think that you're putting your aluminum cans in a green bin or a blue bin or a black man. And then it goes and gets sorted and it comes back magically as another can. And I mean, it takes tons of people to make that process even. Uh, and you really get a sense of that being

Mikey Pasciuto:

here, right? Like everybody here is really just part of the first steps. Like you all specialize more with the brand, to the shelf, and then I kind of maybe take it from there at the household. And that's only like 30% of what goes on is a whole nother thing, right after this, between sorting collection. The reason why we don't have, we have single stream versus multistream like, th this is what's cool about coming here. It's a little bit different than like pack expo. We got to get to see the other side of whole.

Evelio Mattos:

Yeah, for sure. What are your thoughts when you're quiet over here? I've

Adam Peek:

just taken it all in and you're falling asleep, but yeah, it's been a long day. Uh, I mean, I haven't even been able to walk the floor, so that's why I was kinda, I rolled in and right into that right into the session. Uh, I, I thought the sessions that I listened to where were super interesting, um, one specifically on carbon. Uh, even during our session, we were kind of lamenting the amount of logos and labels that we need to put on stuff. But I do think that you, you, you, you gotta be measuring what matters and giving consumers the opportunity to make decisions, not just on price, not just on quality or brand colors, but also on carbon. So I thought that was really fascinating. Uh, I enjoyed, you know, being, being part of our session. There was, there was a. 14 people in the room that we're in, at least

Evelio Mattos:

he's kidding. He's getting goes at least 600.

Adam Peek:

Yeah. At least eight of them. We're paying attention. Cause we got two questions. So.

Mikey Pasciuto:

Well, we did come live on the very back and we was

Adam Peek:

good question. Yeah, we did. They were, they were good questions. It was a huge, we, we draw the

Mikey Pasciuto:

biggest crowds we do. Yeah, definitely. That's how we roll.

Adam Peek:

Yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact, right now, you can't see behind the camera, but there are literally hundreds of, Hey, Hey. Yeah. There's like hundreds of people just staring at us right now. Like we're in this.

Mikey Pasciuto:

Yes. Some look a little confused, but most are not. I promise you

Adam Peek:

now they've all left. Thanks Mikey. Ready to go

Mikey Pasciuto:

ladies? It's my job, Boston. They see me coming.

Adam Peek:

I've seen Goodwill hunting.

Evelio Mattos:

What do you call us? The Beatles of packaging? Yeah, I've heard the term LeBron and packaging, the run rate.

Adam Peek:

But about you here, the LeBron

Mikey Pasciuto:

of packages, if they say, yeah, I don't say

Evelio Mattos:

that.

Adam Peek:

Ask Javier. I said, we'll ask, we'll ask copier tonight with dinner.

Evelio Mattos:

Awesome guys. So I think we're just gonna go ahead and wrap this up. Uh, we're having a good time. We're going to go walk the floor, uh, catches on the tick. Tocks yeah.

Adam Peek:

I'm on I'm on the tech talks. I am at packaging pastor and, uh, there's there's many will be made every day, every day, every day. Um, Tik, TOK and relentless.

Evelio Mattos:

I am professor package. At professor packaging,

Jonathan Quinn:

I'm at Corygated

Adam Peek:

C O R Y G A T E D we all know Corey, you've got a hundred thousand freaking followers

Jonathan Quinn:

working on it, and I have way less than a hundred thousand. Um, I'm at JQuinnpackaged

Mikey Pasciuto:

all right. As far as tick-tock, uh, my family has government contractors, so I frowned upon if I had one. So hot take the youngest one here does not have tick-tock, but you can find me on Instagram or LinkedIn, uh, LinkedIn, Mike Pasciuto and then my Instagram handle is Italian Ham . Cause my last name That's pretty funny enough. My name, last name actually translates to the strong and well fed, but, uh, Ham's a lot funnier.

Adam Peek:

Okay. And ham hard as a Nope. That's not, I'm not allowed. I'm a Southern Baptist. Yeah. I'm not allowed to finish that one.

Evelio Mattos:

Awesome guys. Well, thanks so much for joining us. Um, any last comments here? We've got, uh, Nope, we

Adam Peek:

don't. Rick did. Rick did correct it. He said he didn't. They started a packaging company. So you are

Evelio Mattos:

correct? Yep. Awesome. Thanks a lot for being the one listening. The true Stan. Yeah,

Mikey Pasciuto:

we got David. Oh, we do. And Matthew

Adam Peek:

that's

Evelio Mattos:

right. That's right. All right, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks everybody